Venice Beach songstress Evalyn is on to something big. Just last month, she released EP Salvation, which boasts tunes that are catchy and —true to its name— also feels ‘bigger than us’. With bold anthems and vulnerable lyricism about life and liberty, Evalyn taps into that millennial angst that has us equal parts hopeful and nostalgic. Nostalgia can be sad and it can be optimistic, Evalyn’s record gives us both. It’s a promising body of work for a young artist, complete with the retro visuals of your dreams —take a gander at her Instagram, you will not be disappointed— like the grainy video for her single Angels, which evokes an aesthetic that feels part Americana, part David Lynch. Her EP is huge in scale —lyrically, sonically, thematically— but who’s the girl behind the big voice? We get to know Evalyn as she talks to Schön! about her intoxication with “the big bad city”, cult imagery and what Salvation means to her.
Could you give a brief introduction for those who don’t know Evalyn yet?
Oh, sure! Hi, I’m Evalyn. I live in Venice Beach, California, and I’m an indie pop artist. In the past, I did a collaboration with these rad cats Louis the Child called Fire and released a song of my own called Filthy Rich that some folks dug. I’m a fan of classic rock, road trips and the cosmos.
Great introduction! When did you find music, or has it always come naturally?
I started singing in church. Growing up a Catholic altar girl, I would get bored in mass and the only thing getting me through was rocking out to those worship songs. As I got older, I got hooked on every kind of music. I was a fiend for it and eventually picked up a guitar. It was a natural progression.
Being from Venice Beach, how has California-living influenced your sound?
California has such a special sound to me. Every place here has its own feel —from Venice to Joshua Tree to Encinitas to San Francisco. I don’t know if it’s the history or all the unique souls who come here in pursuit of happiness, but it’s really interesting and it’s there if you listen. So, in every way, California and all the little worlds and artists in it are constantly influencing my sound.
What particular experiences have shaped your music and made you into the artists you are now?
I think that listening to my parent’s records growing up was more formative than I even realized. Now when I work on material, I often go back to my favourite albums from that time period and reference production or melodic elements. But really what’s influenced me is just growing up, being a young person in a big city chasing crazy dreams with wild people and riding the wave.
Your single Angels released earlier this year is actually about Los Angeles and the accompanying visuals are very retro and nostalgic. What made you want to capture the city in this way?
The director, Oliver Salk, and I sat down to talk about my fascination with cults and the cult imagery of some very famous Los Angeles groups where I was drawing my inspiration from, particularly the Source Family. He had the wild idea to use 8mm film for the entire shoot and take listeners into this world of paralleling classic Los Angeles ’60s-’70s culture with the way young people still seek their tribe here in the city of angels.
It’s precisely the most interesting aspect of the video, the very groovy cult that comes together in it. Can you explain a bit further?
I think there’s something about Los Angeles that draws unique people to it. It’s always been a characteristic of this city, it attracts people to it who are seeking something different. It’s a high stakes place. So in that way, a lot of people here are in this L.A. worshipping cult and playing with that idea throughout the project has been really fun. We drew from imagery from a lot of famous L.A. cults as well as the Manson and Source family.
Your music is honest, bold and sometimes cheeky — who are your musical influences?
Thank you! I’m a junkie for lyricism and have always been really inspired by female artists who can pull you into their world with their words like Patti Smith, Courtney Barnett, Florence Welch, St. Vincent and Lana del Rey. I am also a massive David Bowie fan and have a Ziggy Stardust tattoo on my right middle finger that my little brother gave me. But all in all I’m constantly inspired by new stuff, I’m a total freak for music discovery so my influences are usually anything that makes me really feel something. My latest obsessions: Big Thief and Son Little.
You recently released your song Big Bad City and it sounds like an anthem. What is the story behind it and who are “the kids in the big bad city”?
Without giving too much away, Big Bad City is about being in love, and the greed of wanting it to work out for all the wrong reasons. It’s about fleeting youth and feeling alive as you’re speeding on the PCH or running down Hollywood Blvd or jumping in the ocean late at night or driving to Vegas on a whim. It’s being surrounded by people, but being completely alone. It’s stumbling into parties, driving through the Hollywood Hills to watch the lights, dancing all night, running out of money, crying and sleeping on the floor. Because the promise of true love is elusive and addicting when you’re young. But it often leaves you with a hangover and your heart in your hand. And the only thing to do is get back on the 10.
Your music captures the times and being young. Tell us about your musical process.
When I went to make Salvation, I was tired of how I’d been existing in the hustle and bustle of the L.A. industry so I wanted to do something different. I called up one of my very best friends, who happens to be an incredible producer named nicopop. and we locked ourselves in his apartment for six months and went through every moment of Salvation together. It was the greatest creative experience of my life. We both had relationships come and go in those months, life experiences, hangovers, heartbreaks and we would bring it all to the room every day. We’d fall in love with a song and go out all night to celebrate and wake up the next day and keep working on it. We’d have friends over to play guitars or sing on tracks and end up all making dinner together and talking about the future and the past. This was a moment in our lives as young artists and I think a lot of that was captured in Salvation. Our hopes, dreams, desires, fears.
Salvation released this September. What’s behind the name?
I have a fixation on things we worship —cults, religions, soulcycle, gurus, relationships, you name it… And I’ve been guilty of putting my faith in the wrong place. Deep down, though I believe that the only person who can really save you is yourself. So that’s the meaning behind Salvation. Both a warning and a message of hope. You can save yourself.
How does it feel to finally have a complete body of work release just as the world is getting to know you?
It feels kismet because this is a body of work that I think truly represents me as an artist. nicopop. and I wanted to make an EP that we wanted to binge, that our friends would want to binge. Not something that was made to perform for an algorithm, but something with some guts and even if no one else loved it, it would be our favourite record to listen to. So if you dig this record, we’re in the cult of it together.
Things are really falling into place for you this year. Was there ever a “this is it” moment?
Yes, two. The first was playing SXSW this year, which was an absolute dream come true. And the second was the day nicopop. and I finished Salvation and we listened to the whole thing laying on the floor of his apartment.
What can we expect from you after Salvation? A tour? Any collaborations?
I’ve got a few groovy new things in the works, but I like to surround myself with a bit of mysticism so you’ll have to stay tuned.
The celestial Nao brought her otherworldly sound to London’s O2 Academy Brixton on 12 March. The British R&B singer released her latest album Jupiter in February and began her international tour shortly after. Centred around growth and optimism, Nao brought the transcendent essence of her album to the stage with dreamlike set design, warm lighting and magnetic charm. Her ethereal vocals and radiant presence truly brought Jupiter to life. Relive her show captured by Schön!
Even on a slightly blurry Zoom call, Tala Ashe’s passion is wholly captivating. Yet, it’s her rich tapestry of experiences that truly informs and enriches her performances, allowing her to form deep connections with her characters and audience alike.
The Iranian-American actress first discovered her love for acting through literature. “I always loved reading,” she expresses, “but to realise that I could step into the shoes of these people who had been living in my books was the real magical thing to me.” Earning a BFA in Acting from Boston University and training at the London Academy of Music and Dramatic Arts and Upright Citizens Brigade Theater in Los Angeles, Ashe’s most notable work includes playing Zari in DC’s Legends of Tomorrow. Still, Ashe has always preferred theatre, saying, “What I so appreciate about theatre is that no one is editing your performance. What happens on that night is what happens on that night, for better or worse, it’s yours.”
Ashe has just reprised her role as Elham on Broadway three years later in English, the Pulitzer Prize-winning play navigating language and identity within a Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL) classroom in Iran. The play – while it’s inherently funny – implores audience members to change their perception of people speaking English as their second or third language. On the impact of the play, Ashe shares, “I’ve received some messages from audience members who say they are changed for the better and that it’s never occurred to them to think about what someone gives up – what parts of them they give up – when they are speaking a language that is not their mother tongue.”
Sitting down with Schön!, Ashe details reworking her role in English for the Broadway stage, learning more about herself through her character, and what she hopes audiences will take away from the play.
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Firstly, I want to congratulate you on English on Broadway! How does it feel to reprise your role three years later on Broadway?
It’s so exciting to be having a Broadway debut, but to be having it with this play – that was so meaningful the first time I did it – now feels, in some ways, heavier because of world events in the last three years, but also more important. It’s been a real joy to do it on Broadway with the original cast and creative team.
For those who haven’t heard of the play, can you explain what it’s about?
It takes place in a TOEFL classroom in Iran – TOEFL is the English as a foreign language test. It’s a bunch of adult learners in that class, I am one of them, and we essentially see them navigating language and communicating with each other; struggling with that language. The way the playwright has written the play, you hear the play in English, but when we’re speaking Persian (Farsi), we’re speaking in unaccented English. It really allows accessibility for the audience. You’re never getting subtitles, you’re actually hearing the entire show in English and when they’re speaking their mother tongue, there’s even less of a barrier because you’re hearing unaccented English. It’s hard to explain. [Laughs]
It’s an exciting concept because, as an audience member, it makes you realise when someone is speaking in a second language, it’s not completely truthful to who they are. When you are speaking in English as if you were speaking Farsi, it makes sense for it to be seamless.
It gives you a sense of interiority which you normally wouldn’t get if there was a different language you were hearing or if you were hearing someone speak accented English. That’s one of the major themes of the play, and it lures you in. The play is very funny, and at the beginning, you can feel the audience laughing, and they should be laughing in some ways at the accents. As the play goes on, it’s asking you, “What are you actually laughing at? Are you laughing at their accents? Why?” It starts to – in an artful and subtle way – question how we perceive people speaking languages as a second or third language.
Can you tell me a bit about your character, Elham, and what drew you to the role?
I love her so much. She’s a very unapologetic, tenacious character who has a clear goal set in her mind. She has to pass this test – she has not successfully passed this test five times – and it is what will allow her to go and continue her studies. She wants to become a doctor. This is someone who is very academically inclined and used to excelling, used to being the best person in the class, and she suddenly finds herself in this classroom where she’s not good at English. She doesn’t feel like herself, as you said earlier, and she starts to butt heads with the teacher who has this love of English that Elham doesn’t understand. She perceives it as a rejection of her Iranian culture and the Persian language. That sets up these opposing forces and they really come to verbal blows as they navigate what both characters want.
What have you discovered in the play or within your character now you’re reprising the role that you hadn’t uncovered the first time around?
It’s not as intimate of a space [on Broadway] and my body as an actor knows that. I have found that I’ve had to make, specifically, a lot of physical choices that are different. Again, my actor body understands I’m now performing for 700 people versus 150 people. I need to make the story and the intentions clear to the person in the very back row, so I’ve created a roadmap for myself that is a little less subtle.
As I mentioned, in the intervening three years, specifically in Iran, the Woman, Life, Freedom movement has happened, and that has affected my conscious and subconscious so much. That has entered the play and Elham, to me, has become a kind of representation. The play was set in 2007/2008, so she was already representative of the women in the Green Movement that happened in Iran, but even more so, the bravery we’ve seen from the women in Iran in the last three years. That’s just a part of the play now. I’m an Iranian who was born in Iran and grew up here – so I in no way can represent an Iranian who has grown up in Iran – but I do feel the weight of that representation in depicting these characters who are in Iran. And, in some way, I think of Elham as an alternate avatar of myself had I not left Iran, and that really messes with your mind in some ways. There’s this sliding doors version of myself with me on stage every night which is a gift, but also very strange.
It’s fascinating to hear you describe that and how it feeds into your performance. Playing a role like this, there’s a lot, emotionally and beyond, going on, so what is the most exciting part and what scared you the most?
The Broadway schedule is very gruelling and there are days when I think, “I don’t know how I’m going to get through this.” [Laughs] The play is so incredible, that if you get on the ride, it’ll take you. I find, inevitably, if I just commit and submit to the play, it’s an exciting journey. Elham’s journey is so extreme in some ways – I think more than any of the other characters, she changes the most in the play. I can’t pinpoint a particular moment, but when I think of her in the first and last scenes, it’s so exciting to know I’m going on the journey of what happens in between.
I don’t know if it’s scary, but what’s so important to me as an actor is being truthful. As I previously discussed, the stakes here feel so high, and my love for the play and respect for Sanaz [Toossi] who wrote the play is so great. I feel the weight of not only Iranian representation but of anyone who feels othered. It’s not so much scary, but there is an aspirational pressure every night to truthfully tell the story to represent people whose voices have often, certainly not, been heard on Broadway.
With that being said, how did the role challenge you and help you to evolve as an actor?
In a lot of ways, I feel more confident in my ability to story tell, which is the goal. The number one thing – and what’s so refreshing about this part in particular – is that Elham is not a character who is primarily seeking approval from others. She’s messy in a way which is refreshing for me. As women in general, we’re asked to play a part and be pretty about it, and Elham is not that. The way she sounds when she speaks English is not beautiful or elegant, she’s screaming in the play in a guttural way about winning a ball game. These are not things I’ve ever been able to do in a part before, and it’s so freeing. But, for me, Tala, it’s just a reminder that I don’t need to care so much about what people think. I’m not here to please people, that’s not the definition of good work or good art, and the most important thing as a person and as an actor is to be true to yourself. Certainly to be kind to everyone around you, but not primarily be seeking their approval. Coming from my background of being an Iranian who grew up in Ohio, I feel so much of my life has been about assimilation, fitting in, and, “Oh my God, is someone looking at me weird because I look like this or talk like this or because my parents have an accent?” There’s something that Elham and this part have taught me, both as an actor and person that I hope I can carry forward in my work about being unapologetic about who you are.
That’s such a beautiful message, not only for your character and for yourself, but having the space to reflect that to the audience. I think everyone can relate to that in various ways, so it is universal.
Exactly, and that’s what’s so brilliant about the play. Yes, it is set in Iran, yes we’re in a TOEFL classroom, but there’s a universality to it. There are so many ways into the play, whether you’ve tried to learn a language before, or you have a complicated relationship with your parents, or you’re someone who is trying to pass a test.
From that, what is one thing you hope the audience takes away from the play?
I’ve received some messages from audience members who say they are changed for the better and that it’s never occurred to them to think about what someone gives up – what parts of them they give up – when they are speaking a language that is not their mother tongue. It’s a small thing, but it’s a big thing. The next time that an audience member encounters someone in the world who has an accent or is struggling with English in this case, if there can be more humanity ascribed to that person and an understanding that there’s an interiority there that they may not have access to, that would be an important takeaway.
You’ve also been in off-Broadway productions of The Profane, The Who & The What, and Urge for Going. Do you prefer acting onstage or on screen? How do they differ?
My first love will always be theatre. What I so appreciate about theatre is that no one is editing your performance. What happens on that night is what happens on that night, for better or worse, it’s yours. You have some degree of control over that and that’s so exciting. I love that anything can happen. I especially love it when you’re acting opposite someone who is also invested in being in the moment. That’s the best feeling in the world because both of you are listening so deeply that you don’t know what’s going to happen and you don’t know how you’re going to respond. Not to say that can’t happen on film, but there’s often less time to do it and there’s not necessarily that depth built with someone through rehearsal. When I started to do more television, that was a big transition. I realised, “Oh, I have to prepare all of this work on my own beforehand and come in and be flexible and in the moment with someone else who has also done that work.” Sometimes that goes really well and sometimes it feels like, “Oh gosh, I’m being too stagnant in my choices or the other person is;” that can be challenging. Then, of course, with television – it’s not an actor’s medium, it’s a director’s and editor’s medium – they will craft the performance you will ultimately see. In doing television, I’ve been able to separate myself from the end product because it’s just so deeply out of my hands, you know? [Laughs] I love television, so I’m very grateful whenever I can be a part of a project that is fun and rich in that way. But, I think theatre will always be my first love, and it’s what I feel most capable of doing.
It’s interesting hearing you say that because as a viewer, I’m never really thinking about the process of how you would be preparing for theatre versus on screen.
Often, I don’t like coming into a theatre rehearsal even having my lines memorized. I find that if I do that, I’ve made choices already. I like to make choices in the room with another human being, and you can’t do that with TV. You just don’t have the time. At least, I haven’t been privy to a process that allows that kind of rehearsal beforehand.
Looking back on your childhood, is there something specific event – a film, person, or event – that made you want to pursue acting?
I had a teacher in high school – my English teacher, but I went to a very small school, so he was also my drama teacher – and he nurtured me… I was one of those students who was more concerned about getting an A than learning in some ways. I think that’s part of being an immigrant – although my parents weren’t particularly concerned – I felt like, “I have to get an A, I have to get 100%.” But, I did All My Sons in high school and it expanded my understanding of what it is to learn and absorb something and to see other human beings reflected in work. I always loved reading, so the blueprint was there, but to realise that I could step into the shoes of these people who had been living in my books was the real magical thing to me.
Back to your question about what I’ve learned from Elham, I think there’s something about communion with yourself that I’ve learned as an actor. Those first times I did a scene or a play in high school, I realised that I needed to become friends with myself, to create an intimacy with myself that is so different from that front-facing person who wants to fit in, who is just trying to get validation from others. The other side of it requires a vulnerability with yourself, and even though that’s scary and I’ve fought against it, it’s a fight I’m willing to take on for my life because I know it’s a worthy one. I think it makes me kinder, a better person, and a better partner in the world.
It is that journey of self-discovery that is crucial to anyone, in any career, knowing who you are and being able to sit with yourself and be comfortable.
You start to realise that you don’t want to be derivative. There’s only so much you can do before you’re like, “No, I need to look inside me for there to be an output that is genuine and authentic and feels satisfying to myself.”
We talked a bit about representation on stage, but for five years, you played Zari in DC’s Legends of Tomorrow, the first Muslim-American superhero on television. What does it mean to be a part of that on-screen representation?
It was incredible. It was the first time I felt like I was in an ensemble and a community and supported by the showrunner, producers, and network. They were interested in hearing my opinions on her journey and her representation. That evolved, and we went on an odyssey for five years. I feel proud of the work that we all did together and I think Zari was, in some ways, really revolutionary. I still hear from people who had never seen themselves represented on screen in that way. And yes, she was Muslim, but that wasn’t the number one thing about her identity. She was a person, she was three-dimensional, she was nuanced, she was questioning, she was changing, she was complex. That was the first time that I had an opportunity to do something so important representationally and also have the time to develop it in tandem with people who were interested in doing that work.
You also use your digital platform to spread your activism work, why is this so important for you to do?
I say I have the chronic disease of caring. I can’t help but care. I always have. I grew up going to Amnesty International meetings with my mum when I was eight years old. To some degree, it’s in my blood and the ethos of my family that it is imperative to stand up for those who don’t have a voice or cannot stand up for themselves.
Social media is a very flawed system of communication, but it’s really important for me to balance both my own mental health and bandwidth for these things with speaking up when I am able for things I feel strongly about. I don’t think I’ll ever stop doing that, even in the face of perhaps losing work. More and more people are getting blacklisted and cancelled, that’s the culture we’re moving towards unfortunately – and I don’t think social media is a place to be having conversations – but it is my platform, and I get to speak up for the things that matter to me there.
That’s a tough balance to strike between looking out for your well-being and knowing that you have a platform that you can use to spread awareness, so I applaud you for that.
Thank you.
Lastly, what’s next for you and your career?
I would say that doing English on Broadway gives me a lot of hope, both in terms of representation and being involved with art that reaches people on the level that this play is. To be totally honest, it has set the bar very very high and I’m a little worried about my own mental health coming off of this project. [Laughs] Mostly, I feel so grateful that I know it’s possible to be a part of something that feels so rich. I think anyone who sees this play experientially understands that we can tell stories about people who are different from us that are universal and that are objectively good. It is just good storytelling, and that can happen across all mediums. In a wide-scale way, I hope the impact of this show reverberates into the future, not just for me, but for generations of theatre artists and other people making art in these mediums. In a lovely way, it sets the bar high for projects that I’m looking forward to in the future. I’m excited about what might be coming down the pipeline.
There has been a flux of great art to celebrate over the past year. The world is seeking enjoyment and music is simply a cultural mirror of that desire. The party spirit has taken over the charts and it only takes looking through the list of 2025’s BRIT award winners like BRAT connoisseur Charli XCX, pop darling Chappell Roan and Schön! 2023 rising star Raye to see that there is a genuine appreciation for the art of performance. As awards season comes to a close, it’s only right to go out with a bang. Grammy award winning Capital Xtra DJ Manny Norté gathered together some of the brightest stars in the UK like Schön!’s rising stars FLO, British comedian Munya Chawawa and legendary pop group Sugababes, for the Move Good x Peak BRITs afterparty. This year the annual event was held at London’s iconic Madame Tussauds where guests partied until the early hours surrounded by life like wax figures of Rihanna, Timothée Chalamet and Beyoncé. Schön! captured the star-studded evening with some exclusive film shots by photographer Harry Ambrose.
