It’s been over a decade since Chase & Status started out in the game. Since then, we’ve had A-sides, countless production credits and three extremely well received studio albums. Running the run of festivals across the UK and beyond, we catch them between caravans and tents, in the company of collaborators Louis Mattrs and George The Poet, for a quick one-to-three. Hear it directly from the masters of Drum & Bass here on Schön!
Will and Saul, you started out as two friends who shared a love for drum and bass music, did you ever imagine you would enjoy such success and longevity in such a relentless industry?
It’s mad to think that it’s been 13 years since we released our first tune. We are truly blessed to be making a fourth album and have the careers that we do. We still are two friends who love Drum & Bass, just older now with a few more stories. We never thought we’d be in this position with the accolades, the live show and nearly 4 albums under our belt – it really is very surreal. We still love making music and are very grateful we get to create and perform for a living.
The lead single from your forthcoming album, Spoken Word features George The Poet, it samples 90’s classic Everybody’s Free by Rozalla and is sure to be part of this year’s summer soundtrack. How did it feel debuting a slightly different sound with Zane Lowe on Radio 1 earlier last month?
For me the tune has a lot of elements of part of our sound; a nod to the ’90s, nostalgia and euphoria with rolling beats and bass. What feels different is combining George’s poignant Spoken Word poetry with rugged amen breaks and the hi energy. George sounds like no one else and that’s what excited us and something we always strive for – something different and original. Zane has been a supporter and a friend for any years and it was great to premiere it with him.
Spoken Word seems to have the perfect summer vibe, tailo-made for festivals, are you looking forward to spinning your new material at the multitude of different festivals and shows that you’re embarking on over the coming weeks?
We’re halfway through our festival season and 2 weeks ago we headlined Wireless at Finsbury Park and played lots of new music with lots of new artists. We also Dj out every week and are constantly playing new music and trying out new ideas – it keeps it exciting for us and is a great way to see what needs working on.
As mentioned before, you’re touring a lot over the next few weeks, including several nights at Ibiza’s Amnesia. Do you use huge venues like this as an opportunity to see how new material you might still be working on is received?
Our summer at Amnesia started on June 7th and we will have been there over 11 times this summer by the end of the season. Tonight we play our only Live show in Ibiza with the band. With the live show we do have a set list that we keep to but the DJ shows are not decided at all, there is no set list and it’s different each time.
Any pre-show rituals that might be of interest? Meditation vs Vodka?
Nothing too exciting I’m afraid, before the live show MC Rage says a few words in a huddle and then we go on.
Your second album No More Idols saw you well and truly cement your cross over into the mainstream, does this sort of commercial success add another level of pressure when you are working on a new release?
Success can definitely add unwanted pressure and it’s only natural to want that to continue but you really have to just make music because you like it and are passionate about it. Writing something specifically for a purpose has a pretty short shelf life whereas great, honest music is timeless.
If so, does that mean that your fourth studio album will have a mixture of radio friendly hits, such as your lead single Spoken Word, alongside your more classic heavy Drum & Bass driven tracks for your more hard core fans?
Exactly that, we have full songs on the album, instrumental D&B and other tempos and much more. We genuinely feel that this is possibly our best work to date.
Grime music is having a major moment in the industry right now, you’ve always championed underground artists on your past mixes, and we’ve already seen a collaboration with Novelist on your recent release NRG, can we expect to hear more grime in upcoming releases?
We worked with Roll Deep on Top Shotta in 2005, Kano on Against All Odds from More Than Alot in 2008 and Tempz, Tinie, D Double and Dizzee on No More Idols in 2011. Last November we released London Bars featuring Giggs, Frisco, Novelist, Bonkaz and we produced Sun City for Jammer. We’ve been making and working with Grime artists for many years and will definitely continue to do so. There are more tracks with legends old and new that will see the light soon enough.
End Credits with Plan B saw you reach your highest position on the UK top 40 to date. Plan B seems to be somewhat of an enigma recently, are you still in touch? If so, is there a chance of history repeating itself with you guys working together again?
Actually End Credits wasn’t our highest charting single, it was our first in the top 10. Blind Faith and Count on me both charted at number 5 in 2011 and 2013 respectively. Those were our highest charting singles. We are very much still in touch with Plan B – who knows, you’ll have to watch this space and see when the album comes out.
Talking of collaborations, past years have seen you producing for some of the highest calibre artists in the game. We’re talking Craig David, Cee Lo Green, The Prodigy and Rihanna. How do you solicit such huge names? Who approaches who?
It wasn’t production for Cee Lo, he featured on our 2011 album No More Idols. We remixed The Prodigy in 2009 (which was a real honour) and the Craig David records are nearly finished.
Roc Nation got in touch with us in 2009 and co managed us for a few years and we had cuts on four Rihanna records and remixed DOA for Jay Z. We’re still in touch with the Roc guys and have great respect for them for taking a chance on our sound which was pretty different for them.
Collaborating is usually a very organic process, we have a relationship with most of the people we’ve worked with and try and catch a vibe naturally. When we produce records for others they often get in touch with us. We love working with new talent and that’s been something we’ve been passionate about for many years.
Are you lending your hands to producing any other artist’s upcoming releases?
There are definitely a few things being finished up and more on the horizon.
Courtney LaPlante has built a reputation on contrast. As the lead vocalist of Canadian heavy metal band Spiritbox, her voice moves effortlessly between restraint and rupture, while her presence carries an authority that feels equal parts intimate and unshakeable. It’s a balance that clearly extends far beyond the stage. And as metal continues to carve out its space, Spiritbox’s nomination and appearance on the Grammy stage signal more than a performance. It’s a statement.
When the band released “Soft Spine” from their sophomore album Tsunami Sea early last year, it became a confrontational call-to-arms and delivered with the kind of clarity and conviction LaPlante has made her signature. And in the hours leading up to their performance — in which she wore a custom Ashton Michael patent harness — Schön! was invited into LaPlante’s dressing room and offered a glimpse into the process behind the power, and the woman at the centre of it.
photo. Ana Massard
Lana decided to put tape in extensions in and not just clip-ins, and it was so much more comfortable in my hair for the long day… I still have them in!
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photo. Anna Massard
photo. Ana Massard
Acacia has done my nails for the Grammys three years in a row, but since I’ve been doing press-ons lately, she was able to come be a part of the big morning with me for the first time, and put them on with all of us.
photo. Ana Massard
photo. Anna Massard
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Putting on a brave face.
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Our publicist needs to get those leash backpacks for us that they put on little kids.
photo. Judson Harmon
photo. Judson Harmon
Christina re-worked my stage makeup for the red carpet, and it’s time to go!
photo. Judson Harmon
photo. Judson Harmon
I wanted to wear this great frog glass eye ring that I borrowed since Michael has the matching necklace, and three years in a row, I have worn my favourite bracelet that my manager got me, which is very sentimental to me. The other rings are the ones I wore to my biggest ever headline show, and I always wear my wedding bands. Each piece is very meaningful to me, and I wear them every day, on stage and off.
There are two types of people in the world. Specialists and multidisciplinary individuals. That’s not to say a specialist can’t be multidisciplinary at all, or vice versa. But what’s intriguing about Bailey Bass is her positioning at the intersection of the Venn diagram, which we get a glimpse of in our conversation. She’s taken on many roles not only as an actress, but also in her personal life, connecting ideas across fields like psychology, a resurgence of hobbies, and writing.
In ‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’, Bailey’s character, Tsireya, continues to serve as an emotional anchor within Pandora, embodying empathy, resilience, and quiet strength amid growing chaos. Through her, the film explores how tenderness can coexist with ferocity, and how choosing empathy in moments of destruction becomes a form of resistance in itself. All of which Bailey parallels in her personal life.
In between bouts of laughter and a charming zest for life, Bailey Bass speaks to Schön! about her metrics for success, a newly set up career wall, and of course, ‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’.
Congratulations on the release of ‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’. You’re playing the very graceful yet strong Tsireya. When joining the ‘Avatar” world, what excited you?
I didn’t know what was going on. It was my first movie. This is my new normal, and I think I was just excited to work. I’ve been auditioning since I was five. I booked it when I was twelve – that’s a long time before you get to live out your dream. I had really low expectations, but I’m just so excited to be a part of a franchise that’s been a part of my life for so long.
That’s insane. It’s a relatively short period of time to make it big, but when you’re 12, that’s half the life that you’ve been auditioning.
Oh my God, no, it’s such a long time. They say give Hollywood seven years, and I guess it’s true. It’s a short time in your life, but the rejection is really hard. I was modelling so much that I had filler — it didn’t hit me the way it hits me now, where I’m ready for the next role. I don’t have much to complain about when I’ve played really nuanced female leading characters I can actually be proud of.
It takes a lot of women ahead of me to have paved the path where I don’t feel objectified in my first roles, which I feel like was kind of a rite of passage that a lot of women had to go through for a long time in the industry. That doesn’t seem to be something we have to do anymore, even though there’s still much more to go. I’m grateful that a lot of the roles that I’ve played with Claudia and Tsireya have been so strong and empowering.
That’s so nice to hear, I’m glad that your experience has showed change in the industry.
Well, it’s still hard, I’m still a woman, but I’m just grateful for my character. I mean, there’s still a long way to go.
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Of course, one little win at a time. When playing Tsireya, did you find yourself reaching areas that, in yourself, as Bailey, you maybe hadn’t explored before?
I didn’t know how to swim. It was three girls at the end of the audition process, and I remember I was paired with the boys, and that was a blessing in disguise for the swimming part because I was like, “I’m not gonna let them beat me. I’m gonna fake it till I make it.” I honestly thank that moment of being paired with a boy who clearly has been swimming his whole life, and I barely knew how to doggy paddle. I had to prove myself very quickly.
Kirk Krack, who is an amazing freediving instructor — he’s worked with Navy SEALs and Tom Cruise on ‘Mission Impossible’. He said at the end of filming, where I had a breath hold of six minutes and 30 seconds, and I was almost leading the chart when it came to swimming… He says, “You grew so much.” Because they wrote in their notes in the audition process, “she needs work, but has a lot of potential.”
That’s so funny. I tried holding my breath and could only do about 50 seconds.
That’s still a long time. I can still do a minute. I love it when gym bros are like, “let’s do a breath hold competition,” and I always beat them. That feels so good. Fuck their push-ups.
Are there any traits from Tsireya that you had in common, or traits that you would like to adopt from her?
I had a lot of similarities to Tsireya from [‘Avatar’] two and three. James Cameron (Jim), our director, and Margery Simkin, the casting director, is a badass. I love her. She’s a legend in the game, and she knew, even though my audition was shit, that the empathy was there. I always had that compassion and empathy for other people.
Growing up really low income — I’m first generation — the family I grew up with had that immigrant mindset of ‘we will make it through, this is better than where we came from’ and I’d be like, ‘well, this is still not great’ and they’d say, ‘but we can do it.’ I already had those qualities. 2025 was really hard being an American and being in the United States. I’ve definitely been hardened by it.
I’m really interested to see, as we’ve seen the chaos in ‘Fire and Ash’ and the chaos that I’ve experienced as Bailey in the world, what that’s going to mean for Tsireya’s empathy, because I’ve seen it in myself. I don’t think Jim and Margie are mind readers and can predict the future, but I think they knew I had enough goodness in me that if you start from that place, it’s easy to shape and add the trauma in afterwards, which I have enough of as well.
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Oh dear, why are you giggling?
You have to laugh. There are actually studies that show that people who’ve experienced the most trauma are the funniest.
It’s like they say, if you don’t laugh, you’ll cry.
Exactly. It’s 2026, we’ve persevered! That’s why — what I talked about in the beginning — those little moments, it’s still not fair. It’s still frustrating, but I realised that you have to be a part of the system to change the system, and have compassion for yourself. I didn’t decide to be born in a brown female body, but what can I do to create the change I want to see? I know you know, but that’s a tough pill to swallow, and I swallow it every day. Being a part of the system and smiling and being nice helps me make much more change, which I know sometimes I just want to pop off the internal rage. I’m a New Yorker. I’m like, ‘someone shove me on the subway, this needs to come out.’
So now that ‘Avatar’ has wrapped, what stayed with you the most? Was it the character, the people, maybe a specific moment on set?
I forget. Actually, I’m going to show you — I created a career wall in my new apartment. It’s still in the making. This is from ‘Interview With the Vampire’ — it’s not done, I still need them to send stuff from ‘Fire and Ash’. Seeing this every day has actually made me remember all that I’ve achieved because it’s really easy to think, ‘I have four more semesters of school before I can even apply to grad schools,’ or ‘I really want to produce this project, and it still has so much more to go.’ But it’s like, look how far you’ve come.
Honestly, I wish I could say what stuck with me was that you have to keep going, that bravery is really important. The issue with me is that, because I’m such a perfectionist, it doesn’t stay with me. So having those reminders, a good therapist, journaling, and having really good friends that tell you you’re doing great. What makes me great at my job is that I keep striving to be better. And yes, that’s great, but I am glad that I made this wall because it reminds me of how far I’ve come. I’ve been working since I was two.
That’s unbelievable, by the way.
Yeah, I go to Columbia University to study psychology, and going back to school has helped me feel like a kid because I had to grow up so fast. I’ve been working with adults, even on ‘Avatar,’ I was the only teen girl, and Trinity was seven, so that was isolating. There were gaps in my childhood, so I’m grateful for — as much as I’m still working, still love being in entertainment — having those moments of normalcy because I do feel like I’ve played as an actor more than I’ve played as a kid.
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You’ve also balanced growing up, working, and evolving creatively all at once. How do you protect your sense of self outside of acting and work?
I have really good friends and a community. I’m gonna start knitting, having hobbies that have nothing to do with work, because as a child, my hobby became my job. So, as I’m entering my adulthood, finding things that I don’t want to make a career out of, something that’s genuinely just fun for me. I love reading, I read every day, that’s really important to me and having some type of routine, because [work] is freelance and every day does look different. Having routine things that I don’t get paid for is really important because it reminds me that my self-worth is in me just being me. But it’s definitely not easy.
I have jobs outside acting — I work as a research assistant and comms person for a nonprofit on campus, I grant write for half the story, but being able to use different parts of my brain and also not boxing myself in. I know I’ve talked about school so much, but that’s reminding myself I’m not linear. I’m not just an actress, even though that’s filled so much of my life; I am so much more than this one thing, and I love that we live in an era where people can have multiple jobs and be multifaceted, and that is celebrated.
With multifaceted freelancing, ‘Avatar’ being such a huge film, and working since you were two, what does success mean to you now? Has it changed at all within your life?
I check in with ‘am I happy?’ I’ve reached a point in my career where there are so many people on the email chain, and I have not seen all of them in person, but they’re all working really hard to achieve a mutual goal. But that goal in education is not going to be the same in acting. Growing up as a kid actor, you want your team to be a part of every aspect of your life. I’ve had to realise my manager’s not necessarily gonna care if I get an A on this essay, and that is okay. So, remembering that I’m leading the ship and that success stems from ‘Am I happy?’
That’s tough when so much of my success has been being an A student in school and working on set, being a really good friend, daughter and sibling, and being able to get everything done on time — that is what success meant to me. It honestly slipped me into such a deep depression when I realised as an adult, I have to check in on myself now, I’m not a kid anymore. That transition, while also being in the limelight, and wanting to be really good at my job, was not easy. Going back to those pillars of, ‘Am I happy? Did I read today? Did I go outside today? Did I do things that fill my cup?’
dress. Loulou de Saison
earrings. Agmes
I love that happiness is your priority. With ‘Avatar: The Way of Water’ press tour being your first time out of the country, and now fresh off the ‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’ tour, which place have you loved the most, and are there any places you’ve yet to tick off the bucket list?
I went to Canada for like three hours because we crossed the border a couple of weeks before the press tour. That doesn’t really count, we went go-karting in Niagara Falls, and they didn’t even stamp my passport. Even being Belarusian and never being to Belarus — I speak Russian, I am so ingrained in the culture, so people think I’m from there when I speak about it. I’m grateful that I grew up in Gravesend, Brooklyn, immersed in so many cultures.
I went to Malta for the Malta Film Festival. It’s such a special country, and I feel like it needs to be highlighted so much more. They’ve done so much for the film industry. I went to the tanks there because they knew I worked on ‘Avatar’, so we were geeking out about the tech. Malta will always have a special place in my heart. The people are so amazing.
Italy is one of my favourite places. Going to Milan for the ‘Fire and Ash’ press tour was amazing. I really want to go to Iceland, to go hiking in Argentina for a week. I’m an adventure seeker, and I want to go somewhere that’s exciting. Alaska is on my list for this year, and Thailand for a girls’ trip. I went skydiving for my 18th birthday in Arizona. I want to do the crazy stuff that. I ate a cockroach on set when I was eight. Been there, done that.
Did it taste okay?
It tastes spicy and crispy. No, it wasn’t a cockroach, it was a cricket. It builds a great personality.
Looking ahead, are there any new projects in the pipeline? Any genres, roles, or stories that you want to get into? What’s next for Bailey?
I really hope we make more ‘Avatars’. I love that I’ve continued being in this weird character actor space. I have said for years that I want to be in the ‘Game of Thrones’ franchise, and the fans want it too. Every time she speaks Russian, they’re like, ‘why does it sound Targaryen?’ It’s because I grew up in America and my accent isn’t great.
I want to continue doing things that feel really epic. Give me character work, and I just shine. I think it’s because I feel so removed from myself, but I also see the sensitivity in the characters. I am excited to eventually go to grad school and continue doing psych research. I’m fascinated by studying how much work you have to put in to be great. It’s quite niche, but the people I’ve worked with say ‘research is me search,’ so continuing to not put myself in a box and seeing where it goes.
But honestly, my grandma asks, ‘what are your dreams for months from now?’ I kind of have them, but I could get a call and be in a different country, which I will be at the end of this month, which is what happens. It’s two weeks at a time. I’m here for the vibes, and the vibes have been great.
Boxing offered Anne ‘Gowtu’ van Lingen a way to find her voice after a childhood where she at times felt overlooked, left navigating a chaotic environment without a safety net. The new short documentary titled ‘GOWTU’ follows this transition from a girl lost in the noise to a woman who discovered her strength through the rhythmic discipline of the sport. It reveals how a physical outlet provides a primary tool for confronting the past and finding a way to speak up.
“I still remember the moment when boxing turned into something more than just a sport. I wasn’t in a good place mentally and suddenly everything from my past that I had suppressed or never processed came back,” confesses Gowtu in the film. “And I noticed that boxing really became an outlet for me to regulate my emotions.”
Gowtu is a familiar face in Amsterdam’s boxing scene and regularly gives training sessions at Simson Gym. She recently appeared in the ring at the Johnny Mosterd Memorial at Club Panama.
Maxim Etty and Jesse Plum, two self-taught directors based in Amsterdam, collaborated to bring this narrative to the screen. Etty utilises a background in illustration and commercial film to pull clarity out of visual chaos, giving the project a raw yet polished finish. Plum focuses on the authentic connection between people and their environment. Their combined efforts captured the intimate details of Gowtu’s life and her current dedication to supporting others.
Reports from Dutch NGO Injebol show that one in four young adults struggle with mental health due to rising rates of anxiety and depression. Gowtu now spends her time training youth who carry their own heavy histories, showing them that the gym is a place where they can finally belong. “Sometimes you see kids struggle and not really know how to express it. I often recognise parts of myself with the kids I work with,” she explains.
The project supports initiatives that contribute to raising awareness of mental health among young people. Documenting Gowtu’s transition into a mentor allows the filmmakers to show that the weight of a difficult past can be transformed into motivation.
Viewers can find the documentary online, where it acts as a call to action for anyone feeling isolated by their circumstances. Like many others, Gowtu’s story proves that the journey towards healing often starts with a single step into the light, reminding us that resilience is built through discipline and the support of a group that understands the struggle. For those who feel they need someone to talk to, the film points directly to the resources provided by Injebol.
It’s been over a decade since Chase & Status started out in the game. Since then, we’ve had A-sides, countless production credits and three extremely well received studio albums. Running the run of festivals across the UK and beyond, we catch them between caravans and tents, in the company of collaborators Louis Mattrs and George The Poet, for a quick one-to-three. Hear it directly from the masters of Drum & Bass here on Schön!
