Ibeyi are back with a reinvigorated sense of self and new music to match. The twins reveal why their third album celebrates the strength in difference and what fans can expect from a fresh chapter in their journey.
Ibeyi are in the midst of a renaissance. When Naomi and Lisa Kainde Diaz caught the world’s attention at 18, they blew the industry away with their visceral harmonies, spiritual melodies and the effortless blend of Yoruba, Spanish and English. After two studio albums, the enigmatic pair are back with new music. This time, they feel the world is ready to hear what they have to say. “We’ve been talking about a lot of subjects that, back then, no one used to bring up, whether it’s Black Lives Matter, #MeToo, spirituality [or] death,” says Lisa.
The French-Cuban duo possess an air of intriguing mystery, but behind the music, their personalities shine brightly. Before we say our hellos, Lisa enthusiastically begins an impromptu tarot card reading. She lands on the card ‘Le Monde’ which translates to ‘the world’ in English. It symbolises “opposites that are meant to be together. The Yin and Yang,” she explains, perfectly describing the twins’ dynamic. London-based Lisa is insightful, passionate and effervescent. Her sister Naomi, who resides in Paris, radiates calm confidence and cool composure. “It’s our strength to be different, but at the same time, the same,” states Naomi. “Ibeyi is the middle ground between us.”
As twins, finding unity in their uniqueness is what drives them. In fact, reinvention is the very nature of their music. “In tarot cards, Ibeyi is the number 13 which is basically saying a forever rebirth,” Lisa explains. “It’s amazing to grow. This is one of the most powerful and beautiful things of life,” Naomi adds. Growth is the spark that inspired their new music, which is due to release this winter. The project is simultaneously a sign of the times and a symbol of change. “One of the biggest problems in the world is we don’t take time to heal. We don’t take time to change. We don’t take time to evolve. And suddenly, because we had to, things started shifting. That’s what inspired this new album,” Lisa tells us. “It’s like a snake taking [off] a layer and embracing who you are. We were realising that we were women [and] not children anymore.”
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Ibeyi will be sharing new music this winter.
Discover the full editorial and our chat with Ibeyi in print in Schön! 41. You can download your issue with this digital-only cover exclusively here.
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Can you hear those faint whispers? In this Schön! editorial, captured by Alessia Barontini, art director and stylist Luca Pirri dresses Omer Brams in looks by Marni, Gucci, Romeo Gigli and others, with hair and make up by Federica Castiglioni.
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Before the ink was even dry on the contract, Emily Bett Rickards set to work on becoming Mildred Burke. Transforming her body and shifting her mindset to the ring, Rickards started her research with Queen of the Ringby Jeff Leen. Using the book as a bible and basis to guide her, the research went beyond that, digging past the surface to find a woman who, not only helped pave the way to make female wrestling a viable and profitable sport for women in the 1940s and 50s, but powered through a world who told her ‘no’ at every turn. Continuously inspired by Burke, the more she found out about her, Bett Rickards was enticed and entranced by the wrestler’s passion. Something she tapped into for inspiration. Burke’s seemingly unquenchable tenacity, determination, and fire made her such an incredible character to portray.
From the depths of Starling City to the ring, Bett Rickards traded in Felicity Smoak’s keyboard for the ring. Putting her body through a strict regime to gain muscle quickly, she recollects to us the difficulty of it but cites how Mildred’s story made the pain worthwhile. As our chat continues, there’s a passion of her own that shines through, an enthusiasm to share the importance of a story like Mildred’s. Queen of the Ring is a film that, in today’s society, deserves to be put on a pedestal, not for fear of her story being forgotten, but for showing us what the strength of resilience in the face of adversity can do.
In conversation with Schön! Magazine, Emily Bett Rickards discusses Queen of the Ring, her relationship with the source material, how she physically prepared for the role, what she hopes the audience takes away from the film, and how history should remember Mildred Burke.
Can we talk about the research aspect of Queen of the Ring? How deep did you go? What was a fact about Mildred you found particularly fascinating?
What was awesome about Mildred is that even though we’re limited to the era, she was in the 30s, 40s, and 50s. Since she liked to be in the spotlight, there’s quite a bit of information on her.So that was very helpful [laughs]. There are a lot of photos. Luckily for me, she had the persona, the dream of being a show woman in a sense. What attracted me to her was this sort of aspiration that she had against all odds, right? She had never wrestled before and hadn’t seen much wrestling as a woman. She wasn’t even allowed at the shows. So, the fact that she had gone to one wrestling match and was like, “That’s what I want to do,” is just extraordinary.
It did feel like any time someone, or society was telling her she couldn’t, she transcribed that in her body as fuel. She was very good at pivoting and making something her own.The script was based on a book called Queen of the Ring:Sex, Muscles, and Diamonds by Jeff Leen. It’s fantastic. There’s so much more about her life in there, so that became my Bible. The internet has many wrong and good things, but it is definitely a lot to dive into. There are a lot of photos of her as a wrestler. Even more importantly for me, there were photos of her with her son, which seemed to show two different sides of her. A big part of the research was also putting on this muscle because her body was different than mine.That means she walked around the world differently than me. Finding out how that muscle influenced her spine and her navigation. Those things really became a part of her personality, I found.
Talking about the muscle, I was going to touch on the physicality of the role. What was the most challenging thing about getting into the ring for you and putting on that muscle? What did that transformation process look like?
Even before contracts were signed, I called my friend, Thomas Taylor, who’s out here in Vancouver and had been a trainer of mine for a while. I said, “Listen, I have to put on muscle.I have to put on muscle fast.” [laughs] We had three months before the camera. I think that was just over two months before wrestling rehearsals.I needed to do something pretty drastic. Tom also knew that I needed to be supplemented with nutrition. He brought on board Dr. Diego Botticelli, who framed out what type of food was needed to do that.It was more food than I’d ever eaten. It was more carbs than I’d ever eaten and more protein than I’d ever eaten. It was extreme.
It taught me a lot about how food builds the body, but food for longevity moving forward. It opened up my eyes. As a woman, I discovered what we need when we’re exercising and how we can have the foundation of our bodywork within the parameters of what we’re asking it to do. I think what was challenging off the bat was making sure I was getting into that routine.
The learning process of it, became second nature, but I really was weighing all my food, and trying to get more protein in a day was pretty hard because you can supplement with powders and stuff, but I do like to eat as many whole foods as possible. I think it’s a real honor to be able to have done this. We should all strive to be healthier and eat how our bodies want us to, but please keep in mind, that I was fueled by the passion to find out who this woman was, it made the process easier. As a side effect, I got to learn a lot. I hope that empowers people. I hope that if you’re looking at changing your life you fuel it with passion as opposed to feeling like it’s a chore because I think that’s the only way we move forward.
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Mildred Burke was a trailblazer for the sport, and she broke boundaries for women. Why do you think a movie like this should exist in our current political climate?
It speaks for itself. There’s something about Mildred specifically in the story we tell that really focuses on bringing people together and making us stronger.When we start picking at each other, we’re only dividing ourselves. We’re not learning anything. We’re not growing as individuals, but we’re definitely not growing as humanity. There will always be a challenge or an evil to overcome. But the point is that we have to do it together, not divided. There’s so much division in the world. There’s so much violence. There’s so much tragedy happening that when we think about coming together, it feels impossible.
Mildred was a woman of her era. There were things she wanted to challenge, right? There were norms that weren’t allowed, and she challenged that. She’s like, “Well, if I can tell myself that I can do this, I have to be able to believe that you can do it too.”That is what was so cool about her. When you believe in yourself, you have to be able to believe in someone else as well. Cause you can’t just give yourself the right, you know? Maybe there’s something in there that we can learn today.I really do think there is, and I hope everybody can metabolize it in a way that puts it into action in their lives.
How would you say that Mildred’s story changed you as a person and as an actor?
There’s definitely something in her that propels me forward. If I have self doubt, she’s the voice that comes into my head now.She says, “No, get up. Like, let’s go. You can deal with this. Not only can you deal with this, but you can also make this into fuel.” She’s made me more of an understanding person. There are all these things that we talk about; self-love and self-forgiveness and self-care. Those things are hard, but they’re more important because not only when you give them to yourself, you’re immediately giving them to other people. It’s almost infectious, you know? I’m so grateful for that lesson.
Moving a bit away from the film for just a moment, I read an article by Comic Book Resources that the Arrowverse fandom prepared you for the passionate wrestling fans.Is there a particular fan interaction that sticks out to you in recent memory, whether it’s around this film or the Arrowverse?
I’ve talked to people about it, especially the Arrowverse, and they have ideas for a certain season that has passed, I’m always like, “That’s such a genius idea!” They’re always good ideas. So, I think that when you love something, you have the right to be passionate about it.I think you have the right to have opinions on it, for sure. There’s always a vice and virtue to the same thing. Your virtue is your vice. Be careful with who you divide outside of that, because I think the best part of being passionate about something is bringing somebody else in, right? That’s what I was welcomed into with wrestling. It’s also what I was welcomed into with comic books.
With wrestling, though, this was a world I knew nothing about. Now I feel like I’m indoctrinated in a way that is a part of my cellular being.I’m so grateful for that, because I do feel like it is a world of passion. I’ll have the chance to welcome somebody else into something I’m passionate about in the future in the same way.
You’re the second person from the Arrowverse to enter the ring with Stephen Amell’s role in Heels. Did he reach out to you, or did you reach out to him for advice?
[Emily shakes her head]
No?
Such a missed opportunity.
For sure.
I hope we get to talk about it in the future, now that the movie’s out.
I think you will. Between you and I, who do you think could complete the Salmon Ladder fastest?
[laughs] I don’t know what type of shape he’s in, but I was also never able to do the Salmon Ladder, so he’s got muscular memory that I don’t have. He has the upper hand, you know?
I mean, fair, but he’s also filming or was filming Suits: LA, so I think you could take him.
I could definitely take him. I just don’t know about taking him in the Salmon Ladder.
With the film all said and done, and out in the world, what’s the first thing you did once you finished filming?
I went for a run.
Really?
I went with my partner, who’s an ultramarathon runner. I wasn’t really prepared for that. The workout I had when preparing for Mildred, the recommendation was not to do any cardio at all.
Wow.
Because we were trying to build muscle that looked bigger, and the way I was eating was really to build muscle, not to sort of shed anything, in a sense.It just would have been too stressful on the body. We were trying to keep my stress at a minimum so the muscle would build. Nutrition’s so interesting because if your cortisol gets too high, then your hormones get out of whack, and if your hormones get out of whack, then everything does. Especially with women and our cycle, you want to be a little bit more delicate.
So, I went for a run, and my legs felt like concrete. My body was just tired and done, and I was pushing it literally uphill in the middle of summer in Canada. My body was done.I think I was pushing myself to do something I wasn’t necessarily listening to my body for. But I was so excited to be home. My partner and I live somewhere where the best part of the year is summer. It’s the most beautiful place to be in the summer. It was really about spending time with family and doing something that we do together. It was just a brutal reality that what I needed to do was just sit down and take a break.Even though I was doing something that I loved, but no, I had to take it easy for a few weeks.
What do you hope the audience takes away from the film?
I hope they feel impassioned. I feel like they really learn about Mildred, but they also learn that inspiration comes from everywhere. But it also comes from each other.And, you know, you asked that beautiful question about when the world is so divided, what are we doing? It just makes you think that our human existence is really to be with each other and learn from each other. And the platform I get to walk on and that we get to walk on today is because of people like Mildred. And so, carrying that torch, in a sense, and recognizing the privilege that we have of where we live, what we do, I guess, connection with other people, but also just making sure that we’re lifting each other up.
I love that answer.
I can’t see a better way to live life. I don’t think there’s another answer. Please show me. I think that’s our best way forward, to be honest. At some point we die, but I hope I get to hold your hand while we go through life.
How do you think history should remember Mildred Burke?
You know, I was thinking about her. We just did our premiere in LA, and it was our last American premiere. She died in her 70s on Valentine’s Day, and decades later, not only her story lives on, but her message lives on. It makes you realize you have a ripple effect, right? She really had a ripple effect, and it doesn’t need to be on some global scale, but your family who you interact with, your pets, like you have a ripple. I think that carries on decades after you die. She was a woman, she was a wrestler, and she was a person with a dream.But I think she would want to be remembered as a wrestler; that’s her bones, baby.
My last question, Emily, is what’s next for you?
I’m awaiting the next character that’ll kind of wake me up again, just like Mildred did. Something is prickling right now, but we’ll see if it lands.
“This look features emerging designers from Studio Paillette, a showroom that offers clothing rentals, which I love because it’s a sustainable alternative to constantly buying new pieces. It was such a cool way to support slow-fashion while discovering young designers during a busy fashion week.”
“This look features emerging designers from Studio Paillette, a showroom that offers clothing rentals, which I love because it’s a sustainable alternative to constantly buying new pieces. It was such a cool way to support slow-fashion while discovering young designers during a busy fashion week.”
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From navigating New York’s icy streets to soaking in the glamour of Parisian couture, Ellie Thumann’s Fashion Month was a whirlwind of runway moments, late-night fittings, and, of course, plenty of cappuccinos. The American model and digital creator first made waves on YouTube — where her channel now boasts over 2.2 million subscribers — before landing campaigns with brands like Marc Jacobs and Coach. Alongside her rise in the industry, she also uses her platform to candidly discuss her journey with anxiety and PCOS, offering a refreshingly honest perspective while balancing the demands of the fashion world. This season, she took on back-to-back shows across New York, Milan, and Paris, embracing every fashion-filled moment along the way. After weeks of non-stop action, Schön! caught up with Thumann in a photoshoot with Carl Niklas, where she broke down her Fashion Month looks and reflected on the season’s highlights.
Fashion Month can be non-stop — how do you keep your energy up with so many shows and events back-to-back?
I think it’s important to take the downtime when you’re not in all the chaos of the glitz and glamour to really sleep well — and of course, the honest answer is a bunch of cappuccinos!
What’s your go-to pre-show routine? Any must-haves in your bag to survive the day?
Band-Aids are a must-have, considering all the different heels and shoe changes. My pre-show routine is pretty simple: a good meal, caffeine, and then I’m ready to go.
You’ve been to so many events this season — any fun or unexpected behind-the-scenes moments that stood out?
Honestly, some of the best moments happen in between the shows. There have been some really fun Uber rides and a lot of amazing food stops along the way!
Looking back at all your outfits from Fashion Month, do you have a favourite look?
I think my Roberto Cavalli outfit made me feel like a princess — it was definitely my favourite. But I was really lucky to wear so many incredible looks.
“During fashion week, I was grateful to partner with Vestiaire Collective, which generously loaned me some incredible pieces. Their platform is a perfect example of how sustainability and high fashion can go hand in hand.”
“During fashion week, I was grateful to partner with Vestiaire Collective, which generously loaned me some incredible pieces. Their platform is a perfect example of how sustainability and high fashion can go hand in hand.”
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Let’s start with New York — what was the experience like for you, and which show stood out the most?
Michael Kors was my favourite. It’s always been a dream of mine to attend, and this was my second time! The designs were simple yet sophisticated, and I loved the little details, like the double belts. The only challenge? Navigating everything with snow on the ground — heels and ice do not mix!
Milan had some incredible collections this season. Which show surprised you the most?
Bally really caught me off guard! The looks were so unique, and I loved the different makeup styles — some models were completely covered in silver glitter, which I hadn’t seen from them before.
We met at the Ferrari show — such a cool setting! What did you think of the collection, and how did you decide on your look for the night?
Ferrari is always one of my favourite shows. They’ve entered the fashion space in such a unique way, and the fur pieces this season were so clean and cool.
You also attended Roberto Cavalli and Tod’s. Were there any standout moments or favourite looks?
Tod’s was surreal — Carla Bruni greeting guests? Iconic. And at Cavalli, the fur coats stood out, but the black sand on the runway was something I’d never seen before. The whole Pompeii theme was stunning.
“This Isabel Marant coat from Studio Paillette was a standout piece for me, especially when paired with classic Ray-Bans. I’m also looking forward to seeing what A$AP Rocky brings to the table as creative director — his influence in fashion is always exciting to watch.”
“This Isabel Marant coat from Studio Paillette was a standout piece for me, especially when paired with classic Ray-Bans. I’m also looking forward to seeing what A$AP Rocky brings to the table as creative director — his influence in fashion is always exciting to watch.”
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Paris has a totally different energy from the other cities. What surprised you most this season? Did anything about OFF-WHITE’s AW25 collection stand out to you?
The accessories at OFF-WHITE were amazing — so many statement earrings and cool shapes. It felt like a fresh take for the brand.
Elie Saab and Georges Hobeika always bring that dreamy, couture magic. How did it feel seeing those pieces up close?
It’s so special seeing them in person. The textures, the details — you can’t fully appreciate them through photos. And the scenography at those shows is always breathtaking.
After so many shows, what’s the first thing you do to unwind at the end of the day?
First thing? Take off my makeup, put on something comfy, and then nap.
