SingerDesta French occupies a space of her own. She doesn’t seek fitting into a box as her music transcends genre. Listen to her latest EPSan Lazarus and you’ll hear elements of classic Salsa, old school R&B melodies, and a distinctive UK tone. The North London artist has a rich Colombian-Italian heritage which influences her taste for musical fusion.Desta’s sound is so self-assured and authentic that she can paint entire atmospheres with just her words. Her new singleTabaco Y Ron feels like hot summer evenings and nights spent dancing till early hours.
There’s a powerful sensuality to the song as she raps smoothly against a spacey beat, which turns into a celebratory Salsa breakdown. Premiered exclusively on Schön!, Desta says the video for Tabaco Y Ron is where London meets Salsa. “There is a very diverse community of people in London who are into dancing to Latin music,” she says. “It was really a big party on film.” In an interview with Schön!, the refreshing artist reveals what inspired her new summer track and why she feels it’s important to wave the flag for British Latinxs.
What do you want people to feel when they play Tabaco Y Ron?
I always want people to feel whatever they do naturally. It would be lovely if they became curious about what I’m talking about in the song and did some research. It’s kind of an ode to some of the greats in Salsa and the Latin music I grew up listening to.
Do you have a favourite line?
“After that boleros and tequila,Ismael Rivera makes it sweeter, got me shuffling in clubs in my sneakers.” It depicts a particular mood that is very authentic to my real life.
I love the breakdown. What inspired you to switch it up on the track?
Myself [and] producerDfawzi had never made anything close to a salsa track before. I was showing him a bunch of different sounds and it ended up being very inspired by Salsa in its essence. I knew we would need live Salsa percussion and I met this really talented guy in Bogotá a few months before. I arranged getting the stems to him to lay on the timbales and congas and it was a priceless addition to the energy and feel of the song.
I’m also in the process of creating a salsa version of Tabaco Y Ron which will be remixed and arranged by 10-piece female Latin orchestraGuerrera. I wanted a real salsa version of the song as I thought the lyrics would lend themselves nicely.
Can you tell us some of the inspirations behind your new video?
I grew up dancing to Salsa from very little. I’ve always been uncomfortable with its cheesy reputation as it’s such a big part of our culture. Salsa music comes from the streets and has spoken about issues of social justice, race, folklore, and spirituality for decades. Musically it’s very accomplished. I wanted to showcase my personal relationship with Salsa in London and give its underground flavour a moment in the spotlight. It deserves it.
You really captured a fiesta energy in the video. What was the vibe on set like?
There were a lot of people who I know from parties. They are always dancing and fully commit to a motive. Just nice fun people who genuinely enjoy dancing. It was really a big party on film. We had to encourage people to let go and match my energy in front of the camera. I knew thatJamal would do a wonderful job of making sure we had the beautiful shots.
Latin music as a whole is skyrocketing in international popularity. What are your hopes for its future?
I think we have access to a lot of wonderful Latin music if we seek it out. Mainstream-wise what we’re exposed to in the UK it’s quite limited. However, Latinxs are a growing population here. I’d like there to be some scope for Latinx artists as we have our own flavour and it deserves a voice.
Were you ever discouraged from making music in Spanish?
I was advised that it would be hard. I met my manager Ivan Martinez in Colombia and realised I would need to branch out further somehow and just went and did it anyway. I’m shocked at the reception so far and very grateful.
What drove you to become a much-needed voice for British Latinas?
Once I finished my EPSan Lazarus I realised how few platforms there are here! Whenever I had to talk about my work I noticed I was trying to explain my culture as a UK Latina with no examples that people could refer to. We have virtually no representation here, even though I obviously know the community exists because I’m part of it. We are given no leverage in the mainstream. With the exception of a few platforms likeLatino Life andThe Latino Shade Room, there are few hubs where Latinxs here can find out about new artists. I just felt it was important to explore that narrative openly because it may have helped me find my voice sooner.
What do you feel is most misunderstood about your heritage?
How rich we are in cultural resources, particularly music, and our innate spirituality that is often ignored. The narratives that are pushed forward of Latinxs in the media are very surface-based and frivolous.
What do you believe is the greatest blessing about being Latina in Britain?
I’m a Londoner. I’m a Latina with a lot of hindsight and this is partly because I grew up in such a multicultural melting pot. It’s allowed me to explore my Latinidad in an interesting way. Perhaps more slowly because of the lack of exposure, my culture has had here, but because of being in London, I know Latinxs, I know people from all over the world and I’m eternally grateful for that.
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It’s not every day that an under-the-radar college student is plucked out of incognito mode and thrust into one of the most devoured series of recent years – but for Sean Kaufman, that’s exactly how it went down. Across two seasons of Amazon’s ‘The Summer I Turned Pretty’, we’ve come to know Steven Conklin – played by Kaufman – through his high energy, irritatingly accurate portrayal of the ultimate older brother to the show’s protagonist, Belly.
Sure, the show’s charm starts with the innocence of a teenage love triangle at its core, but it’s the emotional depth, the gut-punch storylines, all soundtracked to ‘This is Taylor Swift’, that’s made it stick. As Kaufman chats to Schön! about the whirlwind so far, one thing’s clear: the life he’s living now looks nothing at all like the one he had pictured growing up in Manhattan.
Now, with the third and final season around the corner, we’ve been teased with what looks like a rocky road ahead for Steven. With love, real responsibility, and possibly even his life on the line, it sounds as though the finale – premiering in September – is gearing up to deliver the heartfelt goodbye fans have been bracing for. “We put so much effort into this season, and we just want people to savour it and enjoy it as much as we did making it,” he says of season three. And as for Sean? Don’t blink – he’s just getting started.
Sean, you’re a New York boy right?
Born and raised.
Have you ever lived anywhere else?
I mean, lived is probably a bit of a stretch. I was in LA for about six or seven months, and I’ve spent a couple of years in North Carolina shooting stuff.
Presume that’s where you filmed The Summer I Turned Pretty?
Yeah, in an absolutely beautiful beach town down there.
Sounds gorgeous! I’m such a fan of the series, by the way. I devoured the first two seasons. I’m curious as to how it all came about. Tell me about landing the role of Steven?
I was in college actually. It was my junior year, and I remember my manager at the time got me this audition for a book I had never read. It wasn’t on my radar, but I knew Jenny Han’s name. I had seen ‘To All The Boys I’ve Loved Before’. I did a couple of call-backs and then met Lola [Tung], and it all came together. After that, I had to drop out of junior year.
Oh wow, you actually had to drop out to do it?
Yeah, thankfully, they let me back in, though! My dad was bragging to everyone we know because he has this notion that everyone who is successful is a dropout. He was like, “My son’s a college dropout, he’s heading for big things.”
I mean, he was right.
[Laughs], the jury is still out.
When did you get back then, or have you yet?
I have. It was pretty much straight after season one. We shot in the summer of 2021 and then wrapped that fall so I was able to get back and get that degree.
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In what ways would you say playing Steven has influenced who you are behind the scenes?
That’s a great question. I have to say the one thing that I always think about is Steven’s relationship with Belly in the show. I have an actual sister, who’s three years younger than me and more or less. Our whole childhood, we really didn’t get along. No fault of hers, we were just a son and a daughter living in a one-bedroom in Manhattan, you know, sharing a room and all that stuff. Fair to say, it caused a lot of fights. But then, playing Steven made me realise just how important that relationship really is. Seeing how much he loves Belly, I was able to use that in my own life and how I can love my sister. Looking back on is pretty fucked up to think I needed that motivation.
No, that seems fairly common. I have a younger sister too, and trust me when I say, I relate to everything you just said.
It really opened my eyes. Thankfully, the past few years, my sister’s relationship and mine has been amazing. Both this show and playing Steven have helped me get there.
That’s so interesting because throughout the first two seasons, we see Steven and Belly’s relationship endure its fair share of turbulence, but it’s so clear that there is an undeniable amount of love underneath all of that, which comes across.
That’s the thing, at the end of the day, they’re still brother and sister. He’s going to be snarky and give her shit, but he always leads with love when it comes to her.
We’ve seen a real evolution of Steven’s character. He’s now juggling real-life responsibilities like jobs and relationships. How has that been to play?
I think that’s a really cool part of TV, and especially being able to do multiple seasons. In season one, he’s a kid. He’s carefree and adventurous. Now, he’s stepping out of his comfort zone. In season three, he’s graduated from college and is off in the real world. I think that was fun to be able to delve into, especially when I can compare it to who I am as Sean. I’m 25 now, so I know how things work in my reality, but how does he deal with these scenarios? How does he sustain relationships and handle work and love, and everything in between? You know?
Which version of Steven did you find the most fun to play? Season one’s goofy side or how we’ll see him in season three?
That’s almost impossible to answer. I loved shooting season three. I think what you guys will see is a tremendous amount of work. I know my scene partners, specifically Rain Spencer, put so much work in. Doing scenes with her was so much fun. It’s a tricky one, though, because there’s no season three Steven without season one Steven, you know? During the filming of this season, there were so many times when I could relate to a point in his arc and understand why he does things. It’s really beautiful, actually.
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As a viewer, it’s so cool to see it all connect. What is a feeling you hope people are left with after finishing the finale?
I want people to leave that final viewing feeling everything. I want them to feel good. This was probably our favourite season to shoot, and when we wrapped on that final day, we all took a deep breath and let everything out. It was emotional. I hope viewers can experience that same feeling and take that journey with us throughout the season.
How long did it take to film season three?
About four or five months. It was a long enough time that by the end of it, we were like, “Do we live in North Carolina? “We’re going back home?!”
I can imagine – “What is home?” What were the first few days afterwards like?
Very weird. I think wrapping any season is extremely weird, and this season even more so. Many of the cast are based here in New York, so I’m able to see them and hang out all the time. But it’s so sad to know I won’t see Gavin [Casalegno] or Rain for about six months. You spend 24 hours, seven days a week with these people, and now to suddenly not know when I’ll see them is strange. The first couple of days, I was literally texting people like “You wanna grab lunch?” and they were like “We’re not even in the same state.”
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Besides acting, I know playwriting is also a huge passion of yours – had you always been interested in it?
Actually I don’t think I always had an interest in it. I love plays and I’m a big theatre geek, but I never really got into writing until COVID, when there was no acting to be done. I’m drawn to the idea of building characters and that arc that I was talking about. I love actin,g but playwriting is a way for me to channel that when I’m not working.
When you’re writing, is it a case of knuckling down and knocking out a few pages, or is it more of a spur-of-the-moment situation?
In all honesty, there’s no system. Most of my writing gets done between 2 am and about 6 am. I tend to get stuck with a line or a scene and base the rest around that. Steve Hadley, a fantastic playwright, told me once, “You’re never gonna be able to write. The only way to get it done is to tell your friends that you’re having a reading 30 days from now. Set the date, and then you have to get it done.”
Have you done that yet?
I have actually. I was finishing up a play and was getting a little stuck, so I told a couple of friends I was having a reading and forced myself to just sit and write for two weeks out of fear of disappointing them.
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Now that ‘The Summer I Turned Pretty’ is coming to an end, is the idea of being recognised for future roles daunting, or is it just incredibly exciting?
Incredibly exciting. Getting recognised for [playing] Steven is a blessing. I still can’t fathom a world in which I get stopped on the street and people know who I am, but there are so many stories and characters out there that I want to try to help tell. I want to try to do everything in my career at least once. Who doesn’t want to be like an action star once? And who doesn’t want to do the sad Indie?
The show deals with some pretty heavy stuff – grief, heartbreak, all the messy parts of growing up but it still feels really light and easy to watch. Was that all down to the writers and producers, or did you guys have to figure out how to strike that balance on set, too?
I think it’s always a little bit of both. That’s what makes this show really beautiful. There are really raw topics for a show like this that I think you don’t often see. Grief is a big one in this show, and it comes around and takes you off guard. But then, still understanding that it is a show aimed at teens and young adults and it’s focused on this love triangle, you know. I have to say anything to do with the actual writing is a credit to Jenny Han. She is incredible.
It can be the most devastating scene, and then you’ll just hear Taylor Swift in the background, and you’re reminded of the show you’re watching.
Right? I think about that so much. I remember one of my favourite moments was in season two – that scene of Conrad and Belly on the beach. It’s such a distraught, heartbreaking scene, you want to tear your own heart out and then immediately it cuts to Steven and Taylor making out or something. It’s this beautiful line that I think she plays so well, where it’s not cheesy or corny or even out of place. It just works in this world.
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Honestly, I think that balance is a huge part of why the show’s so successful.
I also think that’s a big part of why our fans are so diverse. I’m often surprised by how we have so many fans of all kinds of races, genders and everything. It’s lovely because there’s a part for everyone. As many people are watching to see Steven make out with Taylor, there are also people watching for the likes of Susannah and Laurel’s storyline, you know?
Tell me about ‘For All Mankind’ season five. How did it feel to come into a project with such a history behind it, compared to a project like ‘The Summer I Turned Pretty’, where you were able to start the story with your character?
That was definitely daunting at first. It’s filled with such a stacked cast of veteran actors, and it’s been going on forever, so there’s so much to learn to get in that world. I think in the moment I was terrified, and it scared me so much, but looking back on it, it was a godsend. I had booked the show while we were shooting season three of ‘The Summer I Turned Pretty’, and as soon as we wrapped,d I flew straight to LA and started shooting the next day.
Oh wow, did that not completely mess with your head?
It was weird, I was literally playing Steven 24 hours beforehand. I was like, “How do I distinguish these two people?” The fact that it was such a fast turnaround helped, actually, I think. There was no waiting around or time to get in my head about it. That was a blessing when I look back on it. I just had to jump in. That whole experience was amazing and so starkly different from ‘The Summer I Turned Pretty’. That was exactly what I was looking for. What a lucky position to be in as well, to be able to go straight into another project. Such a blessing. I’m the luckiest guy on earth.
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So, what do you have in store for us for the rest of the year?
Both ‘For All Mankind’ and ‘The Summer I Turned Pretty’ are coming out, which is exciting.
Yes, and the episode rollout has just been shared with the final episode of ‘The Summer I Turned Pretty’ out in the fall.
Yeah, I’ve seen a big debate online as to what people want now. I’m a big fan of that old school TV vibe, an episode a week. I don’t know about you, but I remember watching an episode, and then you’d go to school and talk about it all week long. Everyone just binges series now, and you end up missing bits and having to rewind. We put so much effort into this season, and we want to help make everyone savour it and enjoy it as much as we did making it.
Exactly, who wouldn’t want a taste of summer in the midst of fall? Well, I for one can’t wait to see what you’ve been up to. Thanks for chatting Sean!
Appreciate it. Chat again soon.
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The third and final season of ‘The Summer I Turned Pretty’ is streaming now on Amazon Prime.
Who is the alpha? Is it Mariana, Miriam R or Tessa J? Find out for yourself in this Schön! editorial photographed and art directed by Boyan Li with fashion by Jiawei Li who dresses the ‘alphas’ in looks by Rizpoli, Rick Owens, GRAEDANCE and others, with hair by Jean Luc Amari and make up by Quan.
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What if you had the chance to reunite with someone you loved, someone you lost, through lucid dreams? This story lies at the heart of the movie ‘Daniela Forever’, where Nicolás navigates the depths of his grief after the loss of his girlfriend. Directed by Nacho Vigalondo, the film delves into the memories, the consciousness, and ultimately the painful process of letting go.
In a conversation with actress Beatrice Grannò, who brings the character of Daniela to life, we uncover the different layers of this emotional story. Granno, whom you may recognise from her recent appearance in the second season of ‘The White Lotus’, steps into the spotlight with Daniela Forever, marking her lead debut in a fully English-speaking role. At 32 years old, the talented Italian actress is set to make waves in the international cinema landscape.
Granno sits with Schön! and reflects on her experience filming in Madrid and Taormina, her recent fame, and opens up about her aspirations in the world of music. As she embarks on this exciting new chapter of her career, Granno’s journey is a testament to the power of dreams, both on and off the screen.
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You’ll be appearing soon in the movie ‘Daniela Forever’, directed by Nacho Vigalondo. Tell us more about this project?
I’m personally a big fan of Nacho’s work, and I could tell from the moment I read the script that it came from an honest place. In the past, every time I did a project that came from a true place, it brought me something. That’s what I’m trying to do now with my career: make projects that are important for the people making them.
It’s very interesting the way Nacho talks about grief. He explores the theme as the person goes through a loss because he’s the victim, but also the “aggressor”. As there’s a level of selfishness in not letting go of someone. You hold on to that person, but she stops being a person, and Daniela becomes almost an object. She becomes something that belongs to the person who is going through the grief.
Tell me more about her, your character, Daniela. How did you prepare for the role?
My character is not fully there; she’s a memory, almost like an emotional ghost. And when you play someone that’s not real, it’s very challenging. But that was something very exciting for me.
I think I’m really drawn to characters that are dreamy, and films that have that tone of materialism … it suits my energy. Who is she? She’s not really a person. I really enjoyed playing with the idea of creating some sort of energy; I think that Nacho didn’t want the audience to know who she really was. She is Nicolás’s imagination. It’s very brave to talk about this story like this. There’s a big sense of guilt the whole time, and that really broke my heart; you can tell he feels guilty all the time. But I guess when you lose someone, that’s how it feels.
Do you think it’s a good or bad thing that Nicholas was able to see Daniela again?
I feel like if you lose someone and you’re really heartbroken, and you’re given the power to see them again, even just in a dream… I think that’s what everybody would do. I would do it! I think that’s what Nacho wanted to portray. The fact that if you don’t let someone go, you’re also not free yourself. I think the only moment you can be happy is when you accept that the person is not yours anymore. Nacho didn’t want the audience to fully understand who she was; you never really see much of her, or her past, cause that wasn’t the point. He wanted to show who she became because of her death.
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Let’s talk about your own memories and dreams. How did you get into acting?
It’s strange because I kind of grew up as a musician; acting came after. It’s not something that I was thinking about since I was a kid. But the thing that I always enjoyed was making shows, it could be theatre or just creating something. And I thought that acting was the right path to put everything into it. But the strongest memory I have of acting was my first leading role in Italy. It was a small film, I loved it, and I had the best experience. It’s called “Mi chiedo quando ti mancherò”, it’s from an American novel. It felt like the right time, the right choice, and I remember that I really loved that world.
Your international breakthrough came with the second season of ‘the White Lotus’ series. How was that experience?
Actually, I recently came back to Taormina, to the ‘White Lotus’ hotel as a guest. That was a very strange feeling, because whilst we were shooting, it was just us. The hotel was not open to the public, and we were staying there; it felt like our home. And I remember when I arrived at the hotel, they were like, “Let me show you your room,” and I was like, “Come on, this is my home”. It was a very strange feeling. We were in a bubble for about three months. But for me, that was such a joy to get the role. And Mia, my character, is a musician also who is dreaming of becoming someone in the film. But I never expected it to be this life-changing experience, or at least in my career…
Mia’s dream was to play the piano at the Hotel. Did you get to do that when you went back to Taormina?
I saw the piano, and I was like I’m not doing that. (She laughs) It felt really strange; the piano was there, and I just kept looking at it. When I was playing the piano in the movie, I never would have thought that it would have such a big impact. Not just for the movie, but for myself.
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How did you deal with this sudden fame? Did you get recognised at the hotel?
I think in Italy I get recognised a little less, but when I was in L.A or N.Y people would always come up to me. I also changed my hair, so people are a bit confused. But when I was in Taormina, all of the guests, I mean many, went there because of the White Lotus series, so it was really funny to see people double-checking, and looking…
You were chosen with your ‘White Lotus’ co-star, Simona Tabasco, for the SKIMS campaign. How was that experience? Did you get to meet Kim Kardashian?
That was the moment that made me think that something was happening. I was in Rome, and I knew the series was out in the US, and I knew people were enjoying it, but I couldn’t get a full sense of what was going on. So when Kim K reached out, I was like: What is happening? It was fun!
We were supposed to do the campaign in L.A, but there was such a short time, so they all flew to Milan instead, and we did it there. Then, when we went to L.A for the SAG awards, and Kim reached out, and she said to meet up. So we had a coffee, it was very nice!
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I know music is a big part of your life and something you’ve always enjoyed. Are you working on any music at the moment?
Yes! One of my biggest dreams right now is to be able to release my album. I just need to finish it. That’s definitely one of my goals right now. But you know, I don’t think I have the same ambition with music that I have with acting. For acting, I have a hunger, while with music, I love it so much, it’s something I do for myself. I’m not like “ I need to be on stage and sing.” Maybe that will happen and I’ll be very happy about it, but I don’t have the same urgency.
It’s more of an emotional thing for me. So as long as I’m able to release my album, I’ll be happy. It’s enough, even if only two people hear it, it’s okay, it’s more personal. I love this idea of expressing myself with music. It’s something very important to me. The beauty of music is being able to say something incomprehensible, but when you do it through a song, you can say things you normally couldn’t say. That’s what music means to me: to be able to say all the things that are hard to say. You can do that through a song.
What are you most looking forward to for what’s left of 2025?
You know, sometimes this job feels like going fishing; you have to be very patient. Sometimes nothing happens, but you have to learn to stay put and ready. This idea stuck with me, I really see it like this, because there’s always something going but you have to be very patient.
As an actress, you’re always learning something, there’s always this big question: who am I? I am who I am, or am I what other people see? There was a moment when I thought that all that mattered was what other people thought, and there was another moment when I decided that all that mattered was what I think of myself. I think ‘Daniela Forever’ and ‘White Lotus’ taught me that there’s a very nice balance of both. You cannot block that; you have to protect yourself. It’s okay to accept what other people see in you. It’s a journey!
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What do you wish for the future?
Now filming ‘Daniela Forever’ in Madrid, and with ‘White Lotus’, confronting myself with other cultures was a reminder for me that there’s so much more that I want to do. There’s so much more that I want to offer. I think it was a really life-changing thing. There’s no going back now, I need to keep going, I think this job is really about building a career in the right way. It’s not just about doing what’s happening to you, like you have to do every job… I think you have to think very carefully. ‘Daniela Forever’ was a symbol of that. That film really meant something to the director and to me. So what I want to do now is do meaningful things. And my hope is that there’ll be more!
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