interview | katy o’brian

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Katy O’Brian is having a busy year, with 5 films releasing in 2025. From playing a secret agent in ‘Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning’, to portraying real-life boxer Lisa Holewyne in ‘Christy’, and to Stephen King’s ‘The Running Man’, O’Brian has put in the work, and it shows. Solidifying herself as a certified badass (seriously, she’s got the martial arts certifications to prove it), on screen and off, O’Brian is looking forward to the slow path during the holiday season once the chaos of press is over. Back home in California, she chats with Schön! about some of the plans that were put on hold: writing (more for herself than for anything in the film world) and working on projects with her wife, namely, starting a family. Excited to pursue other creative endeavours while she has the chance, she shows no sign of stopping.

A far cry from being on the police force, O’Brian recalls to Schön! that she knew if she didn’t at least attempt to pursue her dreams, she would regret it. Her passion for film outshone everything else, and after getting a taste of what it was like to be on stage, she needed to give herself the benefit of the doubt. So, packing up her things, she moved to Los Angeles, taking one of the biggest risks of her life. In this case, the risk was certainly worth the reward. Stepping into shoes she didn’t think she’d ever be in. Now, she finds herself on the silver screen, sometimes able to mash together her love of bodybuilding or the martial arts (see: ‘Love Lies Bleeding’ and ‘Christy’), but still she wants more. She wants that leading role, to see herself represented, that chance to prove herself, and push beyond her limit.

In conversation with Schön!, O’Brian discusses ‘The Running Man’, meeting boxer, Lisa Holewyne, and more.

You’ve had an incredible run this year, according to IMDb, between ‘Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning’ and ‘The Running Man,’ you’ve had five projects come out in 2025. How long before you’re back home in sweatpants and being able to decompress? What are you most looking forward to when this whole press tour is over?

How long before I’m back in sweatpants? Immediately. When everything is over, it falls right in line with the holidays. It’s finally getting to make up time with family, which I’m excited about. Then, it’s everything that we’ve been — not putting off — but not being able to focus a lot of our attention on. My wife and I are trying to produce some extra projects that we find exciting.

We’re trying to research things we might want to go after in the future. We’re also family planning and doing those steps, and all of that takes time, energy and effort. I’ve been doing a lot of writing too. I’m just trying to go back and be 100% to all those things.

You moved to LA in 2016 to pursue acting full-time. What went into making that decision? The moment you finally said, ‘I’ve got to do this?’

I wasn’t happy doing what I was doing. I made a short list of the two things that I really wanted to do. One was to act, and the other was to get strong and into really good shape. It was basically damn near the same day I found an acting class in Indiana that taught screen acting. Then I joined a gym, and rather than suggesting powerlifting, they suggested bodybuilding. It was like, “Screw it, let’s do it.” Both those things went hand in hand. I’d worked on a couple of local projects and done some auditions, and I wound up getting representation. I thought, “If I don’t do it now, I don’t know if I ever will.” I just packed up and moved to Los Angeles.

What were those first few months in L.A. like for you?

I was very broke. I was doing so many different jobs, but I had the energy at the time to do all of that. I was just so excited to be there. Everything was so new to me, just having access to so many different events and random events. One of my friends was a magician. We would go to the Magic Castle [in LA] and go to all of these underground magic parties. I dove headfirst into the martial arts community here, too.

One of the heads of UCLA’s martial arts program went to Indiana University, which was the same program that I went to. He hired me, and I wound up teaching at UCLA and Mount St. Mary’s. I found this young ninja program, which was an after-school program. You’re basically burning kids’ extra energy before you send them home. I found a lot of martial arts jobs, which were right up my alley. I love a job that also gives me an excuse to learn. I was constantly learning more about something that I loved. One was teaching, and one was martial arts.

Would teaching be something you’d go back into if you had the chance? Whether it’s for acting, martial arts or both?

I tend to enjoy a one-on-one kind of situation; a mentoring kind of thing. I feel like it’s easier for me to focus my energy on one person at a time. Sometimes it’s like teaching a class: you have some students that are there, and they’re excited, driven and motivated, and some that are just showing up to show up. It’s much more fun for me to interact with someone very passionate about what they’re doing.

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Some have said you manifested your role as Jackie in ‘Love Lives Bleeding’. How would you describe your experience from auditioning to seeing the response when the film was finally out?

I was surprised how many people liked it because I thought it was so niche. This is such a bizarre project that I thought was very specific to Kristen [Stewart] and me. I was so happy that people responded to it at all and found some love with it, and felt seen. I just love that it’s put in your face. Everyone’s like, “Oh, we want a strong woman in this.” Rose [Glass] did that. I love that Rose threw everything in people’s faces and made a meal out of it, unapologetically.

You’ve said in a previous interview that sometimes when you audition for a queer role, you were told that you look too gay. Whatever that means. Have you noticed a shift in the auditioning process from casting directors trying to go for more authenticity?

I do think that they tend to try to cast authentically. Sometimes that doesn’t always work out, especially when you’re casting lead roles. There are so many things that go into play. Part of that is whether it will make money back, and I think there’s a lot more flexibility with television and streaming.

With movies, they’re so dependent on the box office and attracting a broader audience. They’re still thinking, “What will attract men to this? What will attract the male gaze? What will attract the homophobic audiences?” Sometimes it’s not someone that looks like me, but I’m really stubborn at this point, and I don’t care [laughs].

There has to be an evolution in the industry beyond the male gaze. It has to shift. So many other stories deserve to be told.

It’s just so interesting to me how many people hate women. I mean, I’ve experienced that. Especially with ‘Star Wars’, where you’re just like, “Wow, they just don’t want a woman to have a lightsaber.” Not unless she’s Leia in a bikini, they’re angry that a woman exists on screen.

I agree. God forbid a woman holds a lightsaber and has autonomy. Like Kelly Marie Tran’s character, Rose Tico, got so much hate to the point of being bullied off the internet. Daisy Ridley, too, for playing Rey.

That’s so wild. First of all, I think everyone should get off the Internet [laughter]. For your mental health, it’s a really great idea. It happened to John Boyega, too, as a person of colour. It’s just unfortunate that people don’t seem ready.

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I’d love to touch on ‘Christy’ since the film was just released. This is your first time playing a real person. Where did your research start for that? Did you reach out to Lisa [Holewyne]? How did you combat the pressure of portraying a real person?

I was very fortunate that the documentary was already out. I watched that first because when you’re reading the script, you’re like, “There’s no way this happened.” So, I watched the documentary first, and there was something so special to me about Lisa. Her support, but also her dryness. She has a really dry, no-nonsense line delivery. She’s so cool.

I asked if it would be OK to give her a call, and she’s like, “Yeah, I don’t care.” [laughs] I chatted with her, and I could tell they were all rightfully a little guarded about this project. The whole Hollywood machine can be exploitative. This is such a personal story and such an intense story. In the wrong hands, it could be traumatic and reliving this is not easy. It’s a huge ask, so I could tell she was a little guarded.

But with a little bit of conversation, we found out that we’re very similar. Lisa is very intuitive, very smart and got me right away. At the end of the day, she said that she would feel good with me representing her and that she felt represented by me. That was the most important thing for me, because I didn’t need to take this project. I was busy. I had torn shoulders. I almost didn’t want to do it because I was so injured and tired. But that was the selling point for me. When you’re doing a film about somebody who is still alive, especially a story like this, I think it’s your responsibility to make sure that they feel safe and comfortable with it. The fact that Lisa wanted me to play her was the most important thing for me.

It shows there was a real trust and bond built out of that conversation. How did playing Lisa feed you creatively?

I get in my head a lot about everything all the time. This was something where I had a very short period of time to even try to study this role, these people, any of it.  I also had a very, very short period on set. I think for me, I just wanted to pay some kind of homage to Lisa. I told her that it wasn’t going to be mimicry. I wanted her to know that she probably wasn’t going to see herself on screen. I was hoping that we’d get the same aura because I didn’t have time to move like her.

There’s not a lot of footage of her fights compared to Christy’s. There aren’t a lot of interviews of her back then, either. I said, “I don’t know if I’m going to be able to even sound like you.” She’s like, “I don’t care. This is Christy’s story. I’m here to support it.” That’s what’s important. She goes, “I know where I am on the totem pole.” She’s not trying to make it about her. That’s exactly what this character is in the script. In a way, it was trying to reinvent myself and pay tribute to someone else. But it was also getting out of my head and saying, “You know, this isn’t going to be a perfect recreation.” This is a movie. It’s not a documentary.

That’s a lot of creative license and permission given from the woman herself. I feel like that probably took a little of the pressure off, too.

Right away, we were joking around or in the back, showing some moves and stuff. It put me at ease. I was glad that she wasn’t sitting there watching me. I think I would have been a lot more self-conscious in that instance.

I read in an interview that you are a chronic overthinker, and you don’t like watching yourself on screen. How do you combat that overthinking and that imposter syndrome?

At the end of the day, I know that it has to get done. I started writing, for instance. I used to do— I even think there’s a term for it, like maladaptive daydreaming. I would just sit there and think constantly to the point where I wouldn’t get anything done all day. There would be a running story in my head. I started to just write it down so that it’s at least on the page. Then I could make little notes later or annotate something, and then go back to it. That has helped me so much in terms of just getting a story down.

My sister-in-law got me a productivity journal, and it’s got everything you need to get done — goals and things like that. I’m always thinking that I’m forgetting something because I have so much stuff going on all the time. At least I have a visual representation of it. Then, if I have another thing pop up, I can just write it down really quickly. It takes the pressure off thinking I’ve forgotten something. It’s very helpful. So, it’s just a lot of overthinking and a lot of anxiety and being in my head, but it helps putting it down somewhere physically where I can track it. That’s when you hope your team can mentor you and coach you through it and give you advice and guidance. I run things by my wife. She’s really smart and knows the industry pretty well.

In the instance of Love Lies Bleeding, I had an acting coach. So all of these little things help me at least nullify any of those thoughts. They don’t really serve me in any way except to make me run through multiple scenarios.

Are you looking to eventually step behind the camera and write scripts?

I don’t want to step back from acting. I like writing narrative, or in novel form, or short story form and stuff. I’m really bad at screenwriting [laughs]. It takes a certain ability to distance yourself from the world that you’re creating and distance yourself from the characters. In a screenplay, you can’t write out everything your character is thinking. It’s more “show, not tell.”

As an actor, we’re constantly exercising: What is our character thinking? What’s going on in this situation? You’re constantly creating a world based on whatever is on the page. I’m just not good at simplifying that into a screenplay. I like writing stories.

So, we’ll potentially be seeing novels or short stories in the future?

Maybe, if anyone likes them. Otherwise, I will have notebooks full of gibberish. I’m fine with that, too.

Moving to ‘The Running Man’. You reunited with Glenn Powell, your co-star from ‘Twisters’. Can you touch on that reunion and making Laughlin your own?

I wanted to surprise Glenn when I found out I was going to be on ‘The Running Man’ and just show up on set and be like, “What’s up?” But apparently Edgar (Wright) told him already. I got a text from him like, “Oh my gosh, I hear we’re going to work together again. Welcome to the show.” It was cool. It was so much fun. He is very intentional about the projects he picks. I think he likes to have these exciting projects that will do well in a theatre — poppy, hip, fun projects. I was excited to work with him again. I know he has an amazing attitude on set.

He is a great leader on set as well, in terms of making people feel welcome and excited to be there. I was also just super happy to work with Edgar; I love his work. I think he has such a unique vision, and he’s such a film nerd. You show up, and you will learn something. Also, I loved that I could text Edgar — who is in the heat of all this press or when he was in editing or whatever — about a random thing, and he’d get back to me right away. He’s just so sweet and makes you feel like you’re valued. I just felt very, very happy. That kind of helps with your imposter syndrome a little bit, too, when the director is really excited to work with you.

For Laughlin, when I read the script, I got her style, her vibe immediately. I was like, “This is going to be so fun.” I wanted to go full-on ’80s camp. I don’t really get to do that often. I really, really enjoyed getting to do the action. I knew I was going to have a blast. Laughlin was starting at the top right away—maximum insanity. We never toned it down. I don’t think.

You’ve delved into so many genres, is there one you’d like to explore that you haven’t already?

I’ve gotten to do a lot of these as a supporting character, but I’d love to do something as a lead or a supporting lead. I love a good crime thriller. I just pulled out ‘The Bone Collector’ the other day; I just remember it being so fun. ‘Se7en’ was amazing, ‘Silence of the Lambs’, ‘Chinatown’… I love those noir-esque films that we just don’t see anymore. Or an action-comedy — you know, 31 years of martial arts, I would love to do something explosive and fun and silly. There are so many things I haven’t done. Honestly, I don’t even care as long as the script is amazing. That’s something that’s few and far between.

As we head into 2026, what do you hope the future holds for yourself — personally, professionally, and for the world at large?

Personally, I hope that we get on this family planning. I would love to have a pregnancy in the household by the end of 2026, if not before. Professionally, I’d love to have another job — perhaps more than one. For the world, we need to get our shit together. I’d love to see a return to community and humanity and a return to civil conversation. I really think people are being manipulated online more than they even know. Just turn it off. Go outside. Interact with others and keep an open mind.

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photography + creative direction. Alexandra Lopez
fashion. Ian Whalley
talent. Katy O’Brian
hair. Richard Grant
make up. Amber Dreadon
set design. Ann Niemann
production. Cassidy Cocke
location. Matteo Connolly
photography assistant. Mary Nevezhyna
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