interview | emmma

With a violin in her hands from age two and a childhood soundtrack of Joni Mitchell, Carole King, and James Taylor, EMMMA has always understood a song’s emotional power. Raised in Connecticut and now based in London, the multi-instrumentalist and songwriter is entering a new chapter—one defined by creative freedom, emotional risk and a refusal to make music for anyone but herself.

After a breakout year that saw Elton John champion her music on Rocket Hour, BBC Radio 1 support her singles, and major tours with Suki Waterhouse and MUNA, EMMMA is now building toward her debut album. Her latest single, ‘Fall From Grace’, is a cinematic breakup song about leaving a place behind and confronting the feeling that doing so somehow means you’ve failed. For EMMMA, however, leaving Los Angeles became less an ending than an act of self-discovery.

Ahead of her upcoming UK and European dates with MUNA, EMMMA speaks to Schön! about finding her voice, learning to trust her instincts, the places that have shaped her, and finally permitting herself to make music entirely on her own terms.

You started playing violin when you were just two. When did music shift from something you were learning to something you wanted to create and pursue as a career?

I think I always knew I had to pursue music; it was just a question of in what form. I was very into musical theatre for a while, but I realised I preferred singing songs that I had written myself. That was the biggest awakening for me. When I applied for the songwriting course at Berklee, I became pretty sure that this was going to be my career.

You grew up listening to Joni Mitchell, Carole King and James Taylor at home. What do you think you absorbed from those artists without even realising it at the time?

I think they were the perfect artists to learn how to write stories from. Listening to the way they used words to paint imagery was so masterful that I think it became ingrained in me without me even trying. It was like a masterclass in poetry.

Was there a particular song you wrote where you first thought, “This actually sounds like me”?

I think that happened when I was at Berklee. I wrote a song that really changed my perspective on what I wanted to be as an artist. It didn’t necessarily translate directly to the artist I am today, but at the time, it was a huge milestone. I finally felt like I was writing for myself.

Were you always someone who used songwriting to process what was happening in your life, or did that come later?

When I was in high school, I would sit at the piano and write songs to process my feelings all the time. That’s kind of where my love for it started. I would sit at my mum’s grand piano with a yellow legal pad, handwrite my lyrics and write song after song. Not that they were all necessarily good, but I definitely felt like songwriting was my emotional outlet.

Has your songwriting process changed much since you first started writing? What usually comes to you first now: a lyric, a melody or a feeling?

Now, compared to when I was younger, I have to process my feelings more before writing them down. I’m also definitely more critical of my lyrics now because this is my career and not just my hobby. I always have to come into my sessions with a concept or a feeling, and if I don’t, I feel like I’m not productive.

A lot of your songs explore heartbreak and emotional risk. Do you find it easier to write about something while you’re experiencing it, or once you’ve had some distance from it?

It honestly depends on when the session is. I do always feel better when I write about a situation, but sometimes I’m in it and sometimes I’m out of it, depending on when my writing period is. Sometimes I’ll take a period off to focus on performing, and I won’t write, and then I’ll come back to those situations later when I’m in my writing period.

You’ve described ‘Fall From Grace’ as a breakup song with a place. What made leaving that chapter of your life feel so emotional?

I think I spent so much time in Los Angeles that it felt really strange to move, especially when so many people regard it as the place to be for songwriters and artists. I really didn’t resonate with it as a place that felt safe for me creatively, so I had to reassess my relationship with it. Writing this song really helped me with that.

There’s a feeling in the song of thinking that leaving somewhere means you’ve failed. Have you come to see that differently since writing it?

I know it doesn’t mean I’ve failed, as London has proved to be much more creatively and emotionally fulfilling for me. I think there’s a pressure from the world that makes you feel like LA is the only place to be, but that’s just so not true. It’s interesting to listen back to the song now that I know that isn’t the case.

You grew up in Connecticut and now live in London. How have those two places shaped you, both personally and creatively?

Connecticut was a really beautiful, safe place to explore songwriting and music and to realise that this was the career I wanted. London has given me the opportunity to act upon that career. They’re both great places for different reasons.

You’ve had some pretty incredible moments recently, from Elton John playing ‘Russian Roulette’ to BBC Radio 1 supporting ‘Experiment’. Do those moments feel real yet?

They’ve been so much fun for me. It felt the most real when I called my parents, and we had a little scream about it. It was just so much fun. Milestones are so important to celebrate, and sometimes I can forget to do it, so when I can, I really try to appreciate them.

You’re now heading out with Suki Waterhouse and then MUNA. What have you learned about yourself as a live performer since you first started playing shows?

I definitely love connecting with the audience. When an audience member comes up to me and tells me I’ve helped them understand something about themselves, it makes it all worth it. I’ve just had the best time connecting with new people, and I can’t wait to continue doing it.

You’re building toward your debut album. Does the person who started writing those first songs feel very different from the artist making this record now?

Yes, absolutely. I think I’ve become a lot less apologetic, and I’m making music now that I’d actually want to listen to. I think I’m also pushing the boundaries of what I thought I could be. It’s so exciting to see this come to life.

If you could sit down with the younger EMMMA who was just beginning to write songs, what would you tell her?

I would tell her not to make music for her parents or her friends, but only for herself. It’s so important to allow yourself to be unapologetic about your choices. I think I’ve only started to allow myself the freedom to do that now—to make music that is loud and angry, or sad and quiet and expressive, because that’s what I want to make, not because that’s what other people expect of me.

photography. Lune Jusseau
editor. Kelsey Barnes